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Ghost fish in trees, the visual and the verbal world we create.

Wed May 18, 2011 10:04 AM EDT
not-news, writing, poetry, fiction, art-and-writing, newsvine-summer-writing-club, short-storys, summer-of-writing
By Vlad's dog
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 After joining the Newsvine Summer Writer's Club, my mind was filled with words, thoughts, ideas, re-forming old ideas and making new ones from the old. Viki's Club again stirred that writing muse that really bites at me now. So, is this a project for me, a challenge, a whim or fancy, something to add to my repetoire or is it more?

When I was young, a stub of pencil and a blue lined notebook were like Christmas gifts for me. We had very little to amuse ourselves as children back then, but if I could sit down at the aluminum and formica table in the kitchen and write a story, I was happy and with-in a world of my own choosing. I spent rainy hours, nights and mornings sitting at that table teaching myself how to write stories, poems and plots. Then I discovered drawing and painting and soon lost time to even write a short poem. I was hooked on the visual world and it took me, and shook me and created the life I soon followed. I have not looked back since I made my choice and followed that path.

I have always combined the two art forms I dabble with, I write thoughts, ideas for paintings, sketch out diagrams with very descriptive notes and I would even sit and try automatic writing once in a while (which is not as easy as it would seem). Words and images are the two things that we use to develop understand, survival techniques, lessons are learned and new thoughts arrise, life goes on and we watch and record. Since all humans do this, I wonder if it is a need for all humans to try and do this, record thoughts, write words, paint pictures and carve sculptures to form images and thoughts for others to see. What makes us do this?

I cannot wait to see and read the other members work, this interchange and sharing is so important for us all. It gives us 'other eyes' that analyze different things than our eyes do. That is so re-freshing and 'eye opening' that the discovery process becomes exilerating. But there is a small aspect to this I would like to bring up, Critical analysis or Critiques from others. Critiscism and critical analysis is not easy. we all know we are our own worst critics, it is our nature to do that I think. As an art teacher, this has been the rockiest road I traveled on, art is personal, so personal that people get emotional about it.

Learning to critique another person's work is very tricky so I wanted to mention this and suggest we think about this issue. Good insight is important for us so we can develop our skills of communication. We want others to enjoy our work so outside critique is important then. So here are some ideas I use when I have to critique another person's work.

1. Try to be objective when writing a critical analysis of the art. Be clear with your thoughts and talk about what is working first. Build the positive first. Show how some parts may not be helping the stronger parts. The idea is to talk about the whole of the work while looking at the pieces.

2. When trying to point out a structural problem give a good example to show the artist or writer what you mean. Example- "Your descriptive words do not seem to make your character a likable fellow, Is that what you are going for?"

3. If you ask a question after your statement you then engage them in dialogue. This is the most important part of the critique, you are creating dialogue, that is where the analysis comes into play, it is not just criticism you are doing, you are creating dialogue.

4. Be less forceful in your thoughts, instead of just saying "this doesn't work right", say something like "What if you tried it this way", this again is engagment and not forceful submission for either party.

5. Both sides are trying to communcate so in order for that to go well we need to think about what is being said, take the time to really do that. Time is an important factor and we do have that here more than a face to face critique. If you want to critique a work don't just read and start picking it apart, take your time, read it, walk away and think, read it again and see if you still feel the same way about it, then write your thoughts. All art is not fast food, it is a gourmet dinner with courses to digest, take your time, have a glass of wine and think about it more. :)

One of the projects I want to do is combine my writing with my photo images. I want to create a specific image for each written piece. See what you got started Viki! LOL

Ghost fish words

go swimming through the trees

they branch out

and about

and I see the writing in the leaves

Cryptic calligraphy

gossamer weaves.

 

Joining Newsvine has opened up my writing demon again. It is not just a whim or fancy for me, it is another art form  to play with, to delve into the world and my mind. I hope to meet many more and new writers here this summer. Happy Summer Of Writing gang.

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Vlad's dog

Oh well, the sun is peeking out again, better get some outside work done before it rains again. Phooey, I would rather write at the moment.

  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Wed May 18, 2011 10:06 AM EDT
tyler

Joining Newsvine has opened up my writing demon again

I know the feeling.

Great thoughts on critique. I think blockquote goes a long way. The most helpful feedback I ever get is when people circle whole paragraphs and then write one of their own. Critical specific thinking begets critical big-picture thinking for me.

Ghost fish words

go swimming through the trees

they branch out

and about

and I see the writing in the leaves

Cryptic calligraphy

gossamer weaves.

Way to pack a punch. This is clever - branch out - and the repetition of words, writing, calligraphy does a lot for me. Even more combined with the picture, because words are more specifically your interpretation [you see the writing in the leaves] - whereas ghost fish are a little easier to pluck out.

I suggest examining the period at the end of the poem - I think the picture and the words defy the finality of a period.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Thu May 19, 2011 12:15 PM EDT
Vlad's dog

I have never thought about the punctuation that much tyler, interesting addition to my symbol thinking, thanks.

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Thu May 19, 2011 12:32 PM EDT
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nica1829

Vlad, its peeking out here too. I haven't seen the sun in Upstate NY since last week. Wish I wasn't at work.

I loved the piece & the pic.

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Wed May 18, 2011 10:15 AM EDT
Viki Babbles Gonia

Fantastic advice here, Vlad! I couldn't have said it better myself.

When commenting on another's work, focus on what's working, and on constructive, helpful questions. As I often say to my students, asking "Why does this suck?" isn't helpful at all. ;)

I'll be referring people to this article often throughout the challenge.

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Wed May 18, 2011 10:38 AM EDT
etva

Excellent photography, and great advice. Thanks Vlad.

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Wed May 18, 2011 11:49 AM EDT
bethcat

Vlad, this is my first time on this site, but have read your comments on the political boards. I truly loved your story about teaching yourself how to write, then paint, and combining the two together. It is a testament to what one can accomplish when the heart and mind strive to achieve our goals.

Thanks

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Wed May 18, 2011 12:22 PM EDT
Vlad's dog

Thanks bethcat. I did first come here to play in the political mud fest but I stayed because the vine is so much more. Hope you enjoy yourself here.

  • 2 votes
#5.1 - Wed May 18, 2011 12:28 PM EDT
bethcat

You are quite welcome! It's affirming to discover that others, including myself, had the desire to write even as kids. I became a writer for a music-trade magazine at age 55, writing about emerging artists in adult formats. My goals here are to become a better writer by having meaningful dialogue with others, and reading their work.

Thanks, Vlad!

  • 3 votes
#5.2 - Wed May 18, 2011 1:09 PM EDT
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Kavika

excellent work Vlad and great advice.

Waanakiwin

  • 1 vote
Reply#6 - Wed May 18, 2011 12:46 PM EDT
mstanley2265

the photo and poetry combo works for me to...I'll leave up in the poetry group for their perusal..:)

  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Wed May 18, 2011 9:13 PM EDT
Vlad's dog

Thanks ms, I wasn't sure at first if I should put this in the group but I also thought the critique lessons would apply for poems too. :)

  • 2 votes
#7.1 - Thu May 19, 2011 6:45 AM EDT
mstanley2265

haha gotcha on maddad's I saw the Jackie/Johnny comment you left....:) :)

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#7.2 - Thu May 19, 2011 10:28 AM EDT
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